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#41 Aurelius

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:43 PM - 01024941

He did better than he had done previously but not enough to win him any more support. I'm not sure how much damage his refusal to confirm whether he would accept the results of the election did, as he was already pretty much critical going into the debate.


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#42 Member Berry

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Posted 24 October 2016 - 02:50 AM - 01024942

Some polls show double digit leads for Clinton.   Not surprising at all


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#43 Dark Wizard

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Posted 24 October 2016 - 04:21 AM - 01024943

Some of the most accurate polls in recent history have trump up nationally.

 

With that said, I don't know how you can discredit the vast number of polls saying otherwise. Plus the popular vote doesn't matter if Hillary wins the right states. 


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#44 Mandystalin

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Posted 24 October 2016 - 08:19 AM - 01024944

Plus the popular vote doesn't matter if Hillary wins the right states.


Democracy in action
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#45 Dark Wizard

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Posted 24 October 2016 - 03:30 PM - 01024945

 

Plus the popular vote doesn't matter if Hillary wins the right states.


Democracy in action

 

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but its a matter of fact. I don't think anybody looks back upon George Bush as an illegitimate  President, but he did lose the popular vote in 2000. It is simply a function of our Republic. 


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#46 Gandorian

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Posted 25 October 2016 - 02:35 PM - 01024946

 

I actually think Trump did very well in the debate up to the point where he refused to say that he would support the outcome of the election. No matter who you vote for, the fundamental underpinnings of a Democracy is peaceful transition of power, and Trump seems to be ready and willing to support a transition that is not peaceful in the case that he loses. 

 

My thought is, if Al Gore can concede, Donald Trump has no basis to claim the election outcome was not fair. 

But Gore didn't concede until much later, after the recounts and judicial rulings. If he get's trounced (which I think he will as far as the electoral count) he would then look ridiculous to argue it. But if it's close like 2000 (which it won't be), I see no problem admitting he may not accept the outcome.

 

 

I agree, I thought he was going to have a decent debate, but whenever Trump starts to do well, Trump always brings himself down.  

 

Your exactly right. Trump is his own worst enemy. 


Trump is a pompous ass who will get trounced in the electoral college. I think the popular vote will be closer, but he'll lose that too. As someone who leans more right than left, I believe Clinton winning will only give the Republicans a better chance to keep the senate and house. Even if the dems tie or possibly even win the senate in this election, the Republicans will have a majority in both chambers from the mid-terms on. I honestly believe if Trump were to win, the dems would get control of the senate in the mid-terms and possibly the house. History has shown is that the party in the Oval Office most often loses seats in the mid-terms.

I disagree with Clinton even more than I do Trump, although I think they are both asses. But back to Congress. If you look back in the past quarter century, when the Republicans controlled congress, the economy was better. Clinton's best years were easily his last 6 when the Republican hurricane swept them to power in both chambers. Bush's worst years were by far at the end (2 years), when the Dems too control of both chambers.Obama's worst years were by far when he had a Democrat controlled congress. Almost every economic statistic backs this up.

I think Rubio would have beat Clinton, but the ridiculous Trump phenomenon took over and now we'll have our first female President...which isn't a bad thing, but the fact that it is her...is.

 


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Posted 25 October 2016 - 10:56 PM - 01024947

 

I think Rubio would have beat Clinton, but the ridiculous Trump phenomenon took over and now we'll have our first female President...which isn't a bad thing, but the fact that it is her...is.

"Insert Candidate" would have beat Clinton!  I would prob put Kasich in there myself :P 

 

Its a bit of a shame, one of the weakest democratic nominees possible, and the Republicans nominate someone worse.  Boy, I would have loved to see Rubio or Kasich as the nominee, if Trump was able to stay somewhat competitive until recent events, they would of prob won in a landslide :P 


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 12:24 AM - 01024948

It is a shame, but the American people got what they asked for. 


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 10:06 PM - 01024949

FBI- MVP for Republicans
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Posted 31 October 2016 - 12:11 AM - 01024950

FBI- MVP for Republicans

"Republicans"


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 02:01 AM - 01024951

I hope everyone is ready for a Trump presidency! :P hahahaha,  I'll stop laughing once it hits me that its terrifying 


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