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#1 lonzomac

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 01:29 AM - 081461

Reading another members topic I came across quite a bit of back and forth action. My main question is whether or not any of you think that MJ should be legalized. If you think it should, state your case. If you think it shouldn't, state your case. My personal opinion is that it should be legalized and controlled. My reasons are that pot is safer than alcohol, no data exists that says orally ingested pot i.e. cannabutter, causes health problems. Also if it were controlled the risk of getting something other than pot would be cut down. During the prohibition in America, booze was often tainted. It could kill you or make you blind because the average hood didn't care who they hurt. Recently in Indiana there was MJ confiscated that had ecoli. Quite a few people have been hospitalized. While I don't condone drug use or recommend it, I believe there are more pros than cons that are associated with the legalization issue. Your thoughts? As always, try to be civil about it!
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#2 Chunky Monkey

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:14 AM - 081462

I think it's hard to have a strong opinion on this topic one way or the other. On one hand, you have all the negatives that come from using it, but on the other hand, you can say a lot of those things about alcohol too and no one is pushing to ban that. I like to think I take the middle approach. What you do in the privacy of your own home is up to you in my opinion. If you want to smoke pot, have orgies, whatever, as long as I don't have to deal with it, I don't much care. I really think this should be pushed across all substances that aren't harmful to you directly, but cause you to behave differently than normal. Do it in your home or at a gathering site that allows such behavior, but make sure it stays there. If it spills out into public and I have to deal with it, there should be consequences.


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#3 Aloysius

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:27 AM - 081463

I think it's hard to have a strong opinion on this topic one way or the other. On one hand, you have all the negatives that come from using it, but on the other hand, you can say a lot of those things about alcohol too and no one is pushing to ban that. I like to think I take the middle approach. What you do in the privacy of your own home is up to you in my opinion. If you want to smoke pot, have orgies, whatever, as long as I don't have to deal with it, I don't much care. I really think this should be pushed across all substances that aren't harmful to you directly, but cause you to behave differently than normal. Do it in your home or at a gathering site that allows such behavior, but make sure it stays there. If it spills out into public and I have to deal with it, there should be consequences.

I agree with you about the difficulties of taking a hard stance either way, and would add that it only gets more difficult when you consider that even when people keep it private. Society still has to pick up the medical, welfare and other social costs that can, and too often do, result from such behaviour. Balancing this against rights to freedom is difficult, because at what point does one persons freedom begin to restrict or burden others?


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#4 Gandorian

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 06:53 AM - 081464

Some good points. I pretty much agree most people should be able to do what they want in their own home, unless it can negatively impact others (such as children living in the home). My father worked for Children and Youth Services and saw first hand what drugs, alcohol and other substance can do to a family. That being said, if it only affects consenting adults, I believe most things should be legal in private.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:21 AM - 081465

Difficult to say, I feel like before we can legalize it we have to figure out a way to determine levels of intoxication with it the same way that we do with alcohol. I smoked pot a lot for about 5 years and have had no ill effects. I worked I drove, and I took care of what I needed to, However a single ticket I got when I was 16 has followed me into my 30's I was dq'd from military service because it required a felony waiver which they aren't giving out any more, it also took me 6 months longer to get approved by the FAA when I started attending flight school. I wonder what actual long term damage is done by using Marijuana. We know alcohol does a lot of damage to many parts of the body, and so do cigarettes. As far as hurting other people any addiction can do those things, gambling addiction, addiction to porn, addiction to shopping, addiction to video games, addiction to sex, and the list goes on. Once we are able to test for it in a person with a more accurate time line I don't see why it shouldn't be legal. Only problem there is them law enforcement would have to find something else to "fight a war against" 


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#6 Member Berry

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 11:09 PM - 081466

Marijuana is a gateway drug. enough said. 
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#7 FreddieMercury

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 11:14 PM - 081467

All drugs should be decriminalized. Not legalized but "decriminalized", which is different. Locking people up for 10 years for smoking a bowl of marijuana is ridiculous, people who have killed another person can serve a lighter sentence. Not to mention, locking people up doesn't actually alter anyone's substance abuse problem as study after study has shown. The "War on Drugs" which basically seeks out to throw people in jail for drug use hasn't actually deceased substance abuse rates. The only thing it has done is overpopulate the prisons.  

 

What has shown to work is decriminalization of drugs, as Portugal has done. By decriminalizing drugs and making the punishment more like a traffic ticket and subsequent drug treatment programs, they have actually put a dent in substance abuse. That is the solution, not a ham-fisted "throw people in jail" approach.  


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#8 Frank

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:14 AM - 081468

Marijuana is a gateway drug. enough said. 

 

 

No kidding! After my first doobie,I just snacked on the usual, you know - potato chips, Cheetos... Now I'm freebasing nacho cheese and have to sell my body just to get my Little Debbie fix


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#9 lonzomac

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:22 AM - 081469

I agree Freddie locking up people for a small amount of pot is ridiculous and an enormous burden on society. For the harder drugs or any addict the key is treatment. Sure it also burdens society but it might take quite a few people and turn them into productive members of society. Prison can turn a small time criminal that screwed up once into a lifelong felon. I don't believe marijuana is a gateway drug, if it is, then wouldn't any drug you tried first be the magical gateway drug? I smoked for quite a while and maintained my daily life. I've never smoked crack or did meth or took pills. I've drank and I've smoked pot. It may be a gateway for someone with an addictive personality that seeks to blame their problems on everything but themselves. I honestly believe that it would save the average person money on taxes. The government taxes everything else, alcohol, tobacco, gas, food etc. Any of those can cause health problems but here in America we don't have a universal health care system yet. Basically you and your overpriced insurance company pick up the tabs, not the taxpayer. Whereas if you're in jail for a miniscule amount of pot for fifteen years, taxpayers pay medical, food, electric, clothing, cable, internet, guards, administration etc. That's just some of the pros and cons.
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Posted 12 December 2013 - 09:19 PM - 0814610

 

Marijuana is a gateway drug. enough said. 

 

 

No kidding! After my first doobie,I just snacked on the usual, you know - potato chips, Cheetos... Now I'm freebasing nacho cheese and have to sell my body just to get my Little Debbie fix

 

 

I've got some three month old, half-eaten, stale ass cereal if you want to come over my house....


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